Re: [AH] Dark Energy as first synth?

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Minibrute with the keybed removed?


On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, Seth Elgart <redacted@example.com>wrote:

> A buddy of mine at work wants to get a Doepfer Dark Energy II to "make
> noises." He has no other gear at all so this would be his first synth.
> Also, he says he doesn't want a keyboard, so that's a factor as well. I've
> played with them at AHNE for a moment or two and read the manual but it
> seems to me that there's really no way to trigger it without using
> something external. It sort of feels to me that the Dark Energy is more of
> an expander for someone who already has tons of "normal" MIDI gear and
> wants to take their first steps into analog and/or modular rather than it
> being something you could start off with.
>
> So, is there some other small synth that a beginner can use to make
> noises? I can't really think of one in that price range that doesn't have a
> keyboard. It's around US$600 or $700. You can get an MS-20 mini for that,
> but again he doesn't want a keyboard synth. If the Doepfer had a push
> button like the one on the MS-20 it'd be perfect. Is there a small Euro
> starter synth in that ballpark? I was thinking of recommending a Pittsburgh
> Modular Foundation 3, which would be great for him, except I didn't realize
> it's $2,000. If I were starting out in modular today I'd definitely
> consider that one, but it's a lot more than he's thinking of spending. He's
> also considering going the Music From Outer Space route, which is powerful
> and not expensive, but that's a whole different road to go down.
>
> I could be totally wrong about the Dark Energy II but I just don't think
> it'll do it for someone who doesn't already have a keyboard as there isn't
> any way to trigger the envelopes internally or to make them loop, and I
> can't quite come up with anything similar that'll do what he wants without
> costing three times as much.
>
> I think the bottom line is that he wants three things but I can only give
> him two at a time. No keyboard, interesting self-contained synth, under
> $1,000. The problem is I'm not sure there's something that can do all three.
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>Minibrute with the keybed removed?</div><div class=3D"=
gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 11, 2014 at 7:0=
4 AM, Seth Elgart <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:boxoftexlists@gma=
il.com" target=3D"_blank">redacted@example.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">A buddy of mine at work wan=
ts to get a Doepfer Dark Energy II to &quot;make noises.&quot; He has no ot=
her gear at all so this would be his first synth. Also, he says he doesn&#3=
9;t want a keyboard, so that&#39;s a factor as well. I&#39;ve played with t=
hem at AHNE for a moment or two and read the manual but it seems to me that=
 there&#39;s really no way to trigger it without using something external. =
It sort of feels to me that the Dark Energy is more of an expander for some=
one who already has tons of &quot;normal&quot; MIDI gear and wants to take =
their first steps into analog and/or modular rather than it being something=
 you could start off with.=A0<div>

<br></div><div>So, is there some other small synth that a beginner can use =
to make noises? I can&#39;t really think of one in that price range that do=
esn&#39;t have a keyboard. It&#39;s around US$600 or $700. You can get an M=
S-20 mini for that, but again he doesn&#39;t want a keyboard synth. If the =
Doepfer had a push button like the one on the MS-20 it&#39;d be perfect. Is=
 there a small Euro starter synth in that ballpark? I was thinking of recom=
mending a Pittsburgh Modular Foundation 3, which would be great for him, ex=
cept I didn&#39;t realize it&#39;s $2,000. If I were starting out in modula=
r today I&#39;d definitely consider that one, but it&#39;s a lot more than =
he&#39;s thinking of spending. He&#39;s also considering going the Music Fr=
om Outer Space route, which is powerful and not expensive, but that&#39;s a=
 whole different road to go down.</div>

<div><br></div><div>I could be totally wrong about the Dark Energy II but I=
 just don&#39;t think it&#39;ll do it for someone who doesn&#39;t already h=
ave a keyboard as there isn&#39;t any way to trigger the envelopes internal=
ly or to make them loop, and I can&#39;t quite come up with anything simila=
r that&#39;ll do what he wants without costing three times as much.</div>

<div><br></div><div>I think the bottom line is that he wants three things b=
ut I can only give him two at a time. No keyboard, interesting self-contain=
ed synth, under $1,000. The problem is I&#39;m not sure there&#39;s somethi=
ng that can do all three.</div>

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