Re: [AH] analog mixers with multi-channel digital outs

From Brian Willoughby
Sent Fri, Jan 23rd 2015, 21:02

I'm potentially biased, since Mackie is one of my current clients =
(hardware/firmware/software design), but I think they've improved since =
long before the 1640i came out. Yes, things did tend to fall apart in =
the old days, but they always had good warranty service. Since then, =
they've gone from a publicly-held company to privately-held, and I've =
not heard of any quality controls issues for many, many years. I do see =
the company concerned with build quality and stringent testing on how =
things will last in the long term (they recently tested the DL32R with a =
machine to simulate thousands of miles in a truck while screwed into a =
rack - they broke the rack, but not the mixer!).

They also have a sense of humor about their attention to quality =
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DEVxOm3lh1rw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3De1EKhIXlSfc


On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:39 AM, Em Wilson <emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote:
> I seem to recall Mackie going through some pretty serious QC issues - =
was that just a bunch of message board chatter, or have they sorted that =
out?
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> On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
>> Yes, and you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, =
and that has the DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of =
them, and you'd need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 =
channels, I think. The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the =
digital inputs are four AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular =
outboard converter for expansion. All in all, I think it would get quite =
expensive to build a digital I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate =
converters - the ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not quite top in sound =
quality.
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>> Brian
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>> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie <laurie@ronchmusic.com> wrote:
>> > if you have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 =
channels  to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 =
channel HDSP I think its called for PC ....  ins and outs  0 latency
>> >
>> > ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. =
Horton<horton.andrew@gmail.com> wrote ----
>> > Just to clarify - those don't have the firewire.
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby =
<brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
>> > I was just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with =
FireWire, Perkins "British-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced =
mic/line outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and =
that's separate from the usual inserts on every channel.
>> >
>> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html
>> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html
>> > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4
>> >
>> > You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for a set. =
Of course, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) then =
you're set!
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> > On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" <horton.andrew@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>> > > Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin =
footprint, too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like =
a charm. Have never once had an issue making records on it for the past =
few years.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson =
<emwilson612@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > >> I'm researching a new desk and looking for options similar to =
the Venice f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've had Soundcraft and =
Spirit desks for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines
>> > >>
>> > >> Under $5,000
>> > >> 16-24 channels
>> > >> Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, 16-24
>> > >> Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreciated)
>> > >> 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)
>> > >>
>> > >> I'm hoping are European comrades are aware of some options we =
don't normally hear about here in the states. Bonus points if the =
console matches my Costco desk chair!
>> > >>
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