RE: [AH] Is there a hardware sequencer that supports playing the same se

From charles graef
Sent Wed, Jan 21st 2004, 21:33

Digital Performer has a MIDI function where you can have an "echo" on a
sequence with characteristics like:

  - number of echoes
  - precise beat-relationship of echoes to original, i.e. 64th notes
through 2 measures, dotted, triplet, variable polyrhythm, variable swing
  - transpose, harmony, variable chord, or variable scale
  
The echo function can also be acted upon by up to four other "echo" or
other functions with different characteristics, or a rhythmically and/or
directionally variable arpeggiation of harmonies created by the echo
function(s) above.  Those functions can be brought in or out with track
automation, and can be rendered in sum to a new track.  That kind of
stuff gets quite a bit more involved and advanced than any hardware
sequencer can be expected to duplicate.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Zoran Bosnjak [mailto:dj_allin@hotmail.com] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 3:06 PM
> To: jmahoney@gate.net; analogue@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: [AH] Is there a hardware sequencer that supports 
> playing the same sequence twice...
> 
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> this is what I did at home yesterday:
> 
> I use Cubase VST sequencer. I created this 16-step sequence 
> that I also 
> heavily modulated with FM, until it sounded right. I recorded 
> this, and than 
> started playing the same thing with different filter/FM 
> settings/envelope 
> lengths, but also moving the sequence in 1/16 x N increments, 
> until I got 
> the second sequence that, due to relationship to the first 
> one, complemented 
> the whole mix very nicely (in both rhythmic and timbre 
> sense). I believe 
> this relationship is truly worth exploring.
> 
> Hardware sequencer would speed up the process described 
> above, and it is 
> worth saying that I always look for opportunities to beef up 
> my modular, and 
> excuses to spend more on modules :-)
> 
> Regards
> 
> Zoran
> 
> 
> >From: "john mahoney" <jmahoney@gate.net>
> >To: <analogue@hyperreal.org>
> >Subject: Re: [AH] Is there a hardware sequencer that 
> supports playing 
> >the
> >same sequence twice...
> >Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2004 14:35:09 -0500
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Paul Wagorn" <pwagorn@pinc.com>
> > >
> > > put the sequence through a delay with one repeat 2 steps 
> later.... 
> > > unless you wan a different sound for each sequence, then 
> just mult 
> > > the cv/gate out to 2 different synths & put one through 
> the delay, 
> > > set on
> >100%
> > > effect.
> >
> >Good ideas!
> >
> >Along those lines, you can do a similar thing with a MIDI 
> sequencer and 
> >a MIDI Delay unit like this:
> >     http://www.midisolutions.com/proddel.htm
> >$300 is kind of expensive, though.
> >
> >Zoran wrote:
> > > Or to expand the idea, one CV channel plays "normal" 
> sequence, but 
> > > the
> >other
> > > one plays random version of the same?
> >
> >That's a cool idea, but a lot more difficult. If anything can do it, 
> >maybe the "computerized" Doepfers can?
> >
> >You said "hardware," but I'll mention some software: 
> ArtWonk. You make 
> >your own hardware-style sequencers, so you can probably do 
> that random 
> >trick you want. Howard Moscovitz reviewed it on his 
> electro-music.com site:
> >     http://electro-music.com/article.php?t=784
> >Here's the ArtWonk page:
> >     http://algoart.com/artwonk.htm
> >
> >--
> >john
> >
> 
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