Re: [AH] analog mixers with multi-channel digital outs

From Em Wilson
Sent Fri, Jan 23rd 2015, 20:39

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I seem to recall Mackie going through some pretty serious QC issues - was
that just a bunch of message board chatter, or have they sorted that out?

On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby <brianw@audiobanshee.com>
wrote:

> Yes, and you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and
> that has the DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of them,
> and you'd need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 channels,
> I think. The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the digital
> inputs are four AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular outboard
> converter for expansion. All in all, I think it would get quite expensive
> to build a digital I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate converters - the
> ADA8000 is cheap enough, but not quite top in sound quality.
>
> Brian
>
>
> On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie <laurie@ronchmusic.com> wrote:
> > if you have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 channels
> to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 channel HDSP I
> think its called for PC ....  ins and outs  0 latency
> >
> > ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. Horton<
> horton.andrew@gmail.com> wrote ----
> > Just to clarify - those don't have the firewire.
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby <
> brianw@audiobanshee.com> wrote:
> > I was just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with
> FireWire, Perkins "British-style" EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanced
> mic/line outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and
> that's separate from the usual inserts on every channel.
> >
> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html
> > http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html
> > http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4
> >
> > You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for a set. Of
> course, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) then you're set!
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, "A. Horton" <horton.andrew@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin footprint,
> too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like a charm. Have
> never once had an issue making records on it for the past few years.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson <emwilson612@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >> I'm researching a new desk and looking for options similar to the
> Venice f24. I've never owned a Midas, but I've had Soundcraft and Spirit
> desks for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines
> > >>
> > >> Under $5,000
> > >> 16-24 channels
> > >> Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, 16-24
> > >> Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreciated)
> > >> 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)
> > >>
> > >> I'm hoping are European comrades are aware of some options we don't
> normally hear about here in the states. Bonus points if the console matches
> my Costco desk chair!
> > >>
> >
>



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<div dir=3D"ltr">I seem to recall Mackie going through some pretty serious =
QC issues - was that just a bunch of message board chatter, or have they so=
rted that out?</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quot=
e">On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Brian Willoughby <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;=
<a href=3D"mailto:brianw@audiobanshee.com" target=3D"_blank">brianw@audioba=
nshee.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, and=
 you could use a Metric Halo Labs LIO-8 for each set of 8, and that has the=
 DB25 input. But it would get expensive to buy three of them, and you&#39;d=
 need a couple of FireWire busses to handle more than 16 channels, I think.=
 The LIO-8 has 8 analog and 8 digital inputs, but the digital inputs are fo=
ur AES3 pairs, so that would require a particular outboard converter for ex=
pansion. All in all, I think it would get quite expensive to build a digita=
l I/O mixer with the 24.4 and separate converters - the ADA8000 is cheap en=
ough, but not quite top in sound quality.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
Brian<br>
</font></span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
On Jan 23, 2015, at 11:19 AM, laurie &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:laurie@ronchmusi=
c.com">laurie@ronchmusic.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; if you have multi analog outs, you could use the ADA8000 for 8 channel=
s=C2=A0 to and from Adat LightPipe ... RME make a wonderfull 52 channel HDS=
P I think its called for PC ....=C2=A0 ins and outs=C2=A0 0 latency<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; ---- On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:14:51 -0600 A. Horton&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:horton.andrew@gmail.com">horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote ----<br>
&gt; Just to clarify - those don&#39;t have the firewire.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Brian Willoughby &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:brianw@audiobanshee.com">brianw@audiobanshee.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; I was just about to point to the Mackie Onyx 24.4 for $1,800 with Fire=
Wire, Perkins &quot;British-style&quot; EQ, and 100mm faders. It has balanc=
ed mic/line outputs for all channels on 3 TASCAM-style DB25 connectors, and=
 that&#39;s separate from the usual inserts on every channel.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx4bus/splash.html</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html" target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.mackie.com/products/onyx24-4/index.html</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4" target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/Onyx24x4</a><br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; You can buy fan outs for the DB25 cheaply, around $200 for a set. Of c=
ourse, if your recording gear has DB25 inputs (mine done) then you&#39;re s=
et!<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Brian<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Jan 23, 2015, at 9:54 AM, &quot;A. Horton&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:horton.andrew@gmail.com">horton.andrew@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; Zero complaints about my Mackie 1640i. I love the long/thin footp=
rint, too, instead of a wide-ass mixer. Sounds great and works like a charm=
. Have never once had an issue making records on it for the past few years.=
<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Em Wilson &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:emwilson612@gmail.com">emwilson612@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#39;m researching a new desk and looking for options simila=
r to the Venice f24. I&#39;ve never owned a Midas, but I&#39;ve had Soundcr=
aft and Spirit desks for 20 years now. The following are some guidelines<br=
>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Under $5,000<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; 16-24 channels<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Multiple, duplex channels in and out; again, 16-24<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; Parametric mids (hi + lo optional, but appreciated)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; 100mm faders (I might be flexible here...maybe)<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt; I&#39;m hoping are European comrades are aware of some option=
s we don&#39;t normally hear about here in the states. Bonus points if the =
console matches my Costco desk chair!<br>
&gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
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